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First Ride: Privateer’s New 141 Trail Bike

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electrical bike First Trip: Privateer’s New 141 Path Bike

Privateer have been as soon as across the cycle now, and with it they add a brand new bike to their assortment, the 141.

It is not arduous to know the positioning of the 141. Their 161, or finances priced brute as Mike Kazimer put it, clearly had a watch on going actually rattling quick. So the 141 ought to take a few of that inspiration, however with extra of a watch on a little bit of every part. Extra versatile and fewer single minded.

Because the identify suggests, it has 141mm rear wheel journey and makes use of the identical wheel measurement thought as its greater brother, with the bigger sizes rolling on 29″ wheels and the smallest on 27.5″ wheels.

141 Particulars
• Wheel Measurement: 29″
• All aluminum body
• 141mm journey
• 64.5° head angle
• 485mm attain (measurement P3)
• 446mm chainstay (measurement P3), modifications with sizes
• Frameset £1,489 / €1,739 / $1,759 USD
• Full bike £2,989 / €3,489 / $3,719 USD
• Accessible for pre order now, supply January 2021

Body Particulars

Privateer avoid wasting cash with using off the shelf body components, that are somewhat rougher across the edges when in comparison with another, extra refined, aluminum bikes on the market that use their very own, designed in-house, body components.

Privateer’s M.O. from the day they stepped into the business has been about affordability. And whereas that may be a phrase with constructive connotations, the underlying mechanics to make it occur meant frames on the cheaper facet of issues. That cheapness coming from their use of open mould body components and maybe a bit much less growth time than among the different manufacturers.

From afar the 141 is a pleasant wanting bike. The proportions and design are enticing, and comply with very carefully the identical silhouette of the 161. Getting nearer and zooming in is the place the small print begin to bounce out, and maybe the place you’ll be able to see how Privateer convey their bikes in on the value they do. In case you assume it appears somewhat like RAAW Madonna too, then you definitely’d be proper. Privateer bikes are literally made on the identical Taiwanese manufacturing unit as RAAW, and so they say, imitation is one of the best type of flattery.

Cable routing is a mixture of exterior and inside, with the gear and brakes traces cable tied to the surface of the body and clamped on the head tube, with the dropper publish line being run internally with a brief part of exterior below the shock.

The brake hose and equipment cable are all exterior, utilizing largely cable ties to carry them to the body. On both facet of the top tube are bolt on guides, which on our check bike appears to be creasing the brake hose whereas not clamping the gear cable tightly sufficient.

The dropper publish cable is routed internally, utilizing bolt on items and goes exterior for a small stretch below the shock earlier than going again into the seat tube.

The 141, just like the 161, makes use of an enormous two piece development to attach the underside bracket, principal pivot, decrease shock mount and rocker pivot that’s comprised of two machined items welded collectively. In distinction to the open mould body components, this will need to have price loads.

There’s a big one-piece rocker hyperlink driving the trunnion mount shock and a 180mm publish mount brake.

The BB is threaded and has full ISCG tabs. The brake mount is a 180mm publish mount. The primary connection between the chainstay and mainframe makes use of three bearings, two on the drive facet and one on the non-drive facet. The remainder of the pivots run on bearings with the decrease shock mount utilizing the usual Fox {hardware} and bushings.

There’s stick on body safety on the chainstay, seat keep and underside of the down tube, nevertheless it’s fairly fundamental and is coming unstuck already.

Geometry & Sizing

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In a little bit of a replica from Specialised, the sizing shouldn’t be your common S to XL however P1 to P4. The smallest, P1, measurement is a 27.5″ bike whereas the remaining are full 29″ bikes.

Attain numbers vary from 440mm to 510mm with evolving chainstay size as you undergo the sizes, from 434mm to 452mm. The dimensions vary ought to mimic the 161, becoming riders from 1.60m as much as nearly 2m.

There is a beneficiant backside bracket drop, giving a BB top from round 340 – 343mm relying on tire alternative for the 29″ model. The P1 will get a smaller 15mm drop with the smaller wheels and needs to be round a 335 – 340mm BB top.

A 64.5° head angle is sweet and slack whereas serving to out the versatile nature of the bike and with beneficiant head tube lengths it ought to assist to place the arms in a greater window for the bike’s aggressive intentions.

The 141 has a barely slacker seat angle than the actually steep 161, round 1.3° slacker at between 78.7 – 78.9° relying on measurement. Efficient and precise angles quoted, and in addition with the seat at full dropper extension, however no actual seat top measurement for that absolutely prolonged size. Privateer say it is doable to run a publish with 150mm of drop on the P1, 175mm drop on the P2 and 200mm drop on the P3 and P4.


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The 141 follows the structure of the 161, with a four-bar structure, a Horst pivot and enormous one-piece rocker hyperlink. It makes use of a 205 x 57.5mm trunnion mount shock, with the trunnion attachment up on the hyperlink.

There’s 15.9% development with a beginning leverage ratio of round 2.6. Following the little bit of a hump at first of journey, the leverage ratio descends all the best way to 2.19.

Anti-squat within the best climbing gear begins actually excessive, up at 176%, dropping all the best way to 84%. Across the quoted sag window, 21 to 35% rear wheel journey, the anti-squat is between 152% and 140%. Anti rise is between 38% and 49% with it usually rising by the journey.

Choices, Value & Availability

A body equipment possibility comes with a Fox DPX2 Efficiency Elite and headset. It retails for £1,489 / €1,739 / $1,759 USD.

The whole construct possibility comes with a Fox 36 and DPX2 Efficiency Elite fork and shock, Shimano SLX 12-speed drivetrain with an XT shifter, Magura MT5 brakes with 203mm entrance and 180mm rear rotors, a OneUp V2 dropper and Hunt Path Huge wheels with a Schwalbe Magic Mary and Hans Dampf tire combo, each in Tremendous Path casing and Mushy compound. It retails for £2,989 / €3,489 / $3,719 USD.

Each body solely and full bike can be found in uncooked, charcoal gray and heritage inexperienced colors, and can be found to pre-order now for January 2021 supply.

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Trip Impressions

Leaping on the 141 it felt snug immediately, the low BB and lengthy attain mixed with the lengthy headtube give a pleasant ft and hand place. I am 188cm tall and the P3 measurement matches like a glove.

The marginally slacker seat angle, in comparison with the 161, feels very nice too, and provides a not too stretched out however not too upright driving place on steeper climbs and flatter sections of path. It permits the seat to be in a pleasant center floor permitting adjustment both manner.

Round Champéry, and the Valais area of Switzerland, the 141 feels to be a very nice little possibility for a lot of searching for a little bit of a do all of it mountain bike. That aggressive geometry brings stability, a pleasant rider match for consolation and the inherent livliness from the shorter journey whereas nonetheless having sufficient to allow you to get away with a little bit of homicide right here and there.

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It additionally appears to be a very good recipe for markets just like the UK, with mixes of path centres pedals to longer and techier days out within the Welsh and Scottish hills. Privateer’s being UK primarily based means this is not a lot of a shock.

Using clever it feels good up to now after just a few rides. Maybe I am this bike by the eyes of a motorbike engineer and too critically, however in a battle of marginal good points right here and there that separate the mediocre from the good, is it too tough across the edges?

It will likely be attention-grabbing to see the way it holds up long run in comparison with some extra refined bikes and what the diminished value truly will get you long run, slightly than simply on paper. However on first impressions it is loads of bike for not some huge cash, however I am chin scratching as to how a lot of that’s simply the spec. Time will inform and I am going to report again with a full evaluate within the coming months.

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